detail search caste and community in the central list of OBC. Since this inclution in Ezhava lost its freedom, cultural identityand all social and educational considerations. To clarify further details, i would take the support of myths and history so that all of you understand how these lineages, tribes, clans and caste formed from a single human breed. 31) Naradapariprajaka Upanishad Once his or her Kundalini activates, the man or woman become divine. Never mind, you can improve it. 3) Aaruni Upanishad Mooladhara chakra is near anus, Swadishtana chakra is near urinary bladder, Manipura chakra is at umbilical code junction, Anahat chakra is near heart, Vishudhi chakra is on neck, Ajna chakra in on forehead in between eyebrows and Sahsrara chakra is on top centre of the head. 4) Atharvashira Upanisad Muthappan chose Kunnathoor as His residence at the request of Chandan. 25% of the Kerala population is from this Eazhavar /Thiyyar community.They are known as Chovan ( cholan), Chekavar (warriors) or chekons in Kerala. Our Hubris will not take us to places,but unity and belongingness irrespective of our diversity will last us long till the eternity. 44) How old are the Vedas? Third, South had a lot of elites too. are also worshipped by Thiyyer in the form of Theyyem. In kochin the vaniyans are kongini vaniyans and these are sacred thread wearing vaishyas . Sri Churyayi Kanaran, Deputy Collector of South Malabar, British India, during 1859- 1869. Can you proove that? Haplogroup H originates from a western iranian province of ilam or elam, which means Home land. 4) Atharva veda somhitha (contains 50 shakas or branches), 1) Ithereya Brahmanam This is called swayamvaram. If you want to talk about skin colour. You can see the same with malabar Nairs too. As per our myth Manu was accompanied with his wife, Seven Sages and their families. That is the Scientific India. 10) AP Sajesh Niju Malappuram‎ to Janam TV - Fans Club After the flood of great deluge manu's yacht or ark believed to be anchored on the top peak of a Moutain, which hindus belives as peak of Malaya Mountain Vis Aanamudi of Western Ghat. Ezhavas have enough glorious past to be proud of and need not allign with Thiyyas for that. 2) Dhanurvedam Now a day, due to lack of space in their house compound, funerals are done at public smashanam or cemetery. Earlier, in each Thiyya house used to have a separate room called Chayipp. The first one says that that Lord Siva saw seven women taking a bath in a river and decided to get them. (It was the foolishness of Thiyyer, those days). I am a Thiyya and believe the Thiyya and Ezhava were the original people of kerala their population numbers are a proof of this. They are related to Tamil castes of illathupillaimar and sirakudi vellalar. With people with leadership skills as Mr. Premdev, I could totally see where your vehicle is going. Population control in Kerala, India. if you r a forward cast, leave ur O.B.C.reservation quota. Why is there a conflict between Thiyya and Ezhava? . Kummikali is practiced by Thiyya women. 20) https://archive.org/details/caste&tribesofs007thuriala , Castes and tribes of Southern India: Thurston, Edgar 1855-1935. It will be performed by Thiyya male member or Thiyya boys. In fact, the illams are exogamous. 15) Soorya Upanishad Yes, it’s true that Thiyyas of Malabar were from Kyrgyz and they were called “Thiyyas” because they were people who were settled in the foothills of “Tian Mountains” which is in the southern side of Kyrgyzstan. A few of bride’s relatives will accompany the bride, for escorting the bride to the groom’s house. 6) Samavidhana Brahmanam He explains, and at length she yields. 20) Devi Upanishad Hindus Mahasankalpa has mentioned the same point as the modern science as far as this period is concerned. But unfortunately the context in which this information is presented and the lack of any reference makes me a skeptic. Thiyya marriage is conducted in a kalyana (marriage) mandapam (stage) in bride’s residence or in a hired auditorium, during the day time. Normally, each big combined Thiyya family used to have their own smashanam (cemetery). I don't remember reading the entire article of yours. Typed in mob so some mistake may happen in wordings please be excused The present Manwantara is 7th one, known as Vaivaswtha Manwantara. Also, South we don't even know about other sub castes in Ezhavas. She was very good in sword fight (kalaripayattu) , also a Thiyya. Haha വാണിയനും (lowercaste coconut oil makers) മണിയാണിയും ഒക്കെ lowercaste ആണ് .അവരുടെ തൊഴിലും തിയ്യരുടെ തൊഴിലും തമ്മിൽ വല്യ വ്യത്യാസമൊന്നുമില്ല .nambyiar ,നായനാർ ,വർമ്മ പോലുള്ളജാതികൾ ആണ് Swords, other weapons and other tools made of Iron and steel for Thiyya are used to be provided by Kollan (Viswakarma) community. Nair ennum paranj ang pongi kerathe,karyam illa. Thanks to Manikandan for the question; Technically Thiyya and Ezhava are not same, rather two different castes. From these places, Thiyya community has migrated to, rest of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Telungana, Maharashtra, Gujarat, Delhi and other states of India and all Arabian Gulf countries , like UAE, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc and rest of the world. Coorgies call Muthappan as Uthappa in their Coorgee language. Are you mad? this is our demand for over 10 years. Once these, Intelligent Design, equivalent theories have been presented, the author kicks it up a notch and suggests that some people migrated from Kyrgyzstan in 7000 B.C to India. @ Rekha Hi Rekha, I understand your attachment to cultural things but I don't really understand one's attachment to a caste. How do you differentiate an Ezhava from a Paniyan> Basically, it is the story of the Avatars: Now, they don't really talk much about their castes, rather they are open to other castes. Hinduism followed Kali varsham, Kali dinam (Kali year and Kali days). Then both bride and groom put ring to each other. When we say 7th mutation it means already 6 generation of breeds were already crossed. You need to improve your writing skills. 23) Ganapathi Upanishad As a youth in his late Twenties, what I feel is Our goal for the future should be organisation of Thiya community irrespective of our diverse names, Languages, financial condition and reach out to the last member of our community for strengthening us for the future,but here all I can read is how superior and un-Indian and fair we are from others etc etc and delusions .I belong to Tulu Thiya community who are also called as Malyalee-Billawa and Belchada.We worship Bhagawati amma and our kula guru is Shree Guru Narayana Swami.In Tulunadu, we share brotherly relationship with Guru Narayana Swami worshiping Billawa community and other communities, we don't consider anyone superior or inferior.There are other Thiyas who speaks a very different language which is mixture of Tulu,Kannada and Malyalam which is called Malyalee by them,even they are busy infighting.I don't get this Thiyas pre and post-independence have been oprressed,killed and converted gruesomely in Khilafat movement then,and still are targeted in places like Manjeshwar, Kasargod,Maddur especially the southern part of Tulunadu that falls in Nothern Kerala. The Thiyya king was not having a valid successor (Marumakan, that is his sister’s son), after his death. 30) Yogakundalini Upanishad Your caste was put under the OBC sect not because your ancestors were made of duplicate materials but because there were both rich and poor people, the richs among us were brave enough to think about the oppression that the poor faced. That's what we do. Gods and goddess and the way of worship of Thiyya: Thiyya worship their Gods and Goddess in the form of Theyyam, in addition to Shiva, Parvathi, Ganesha, Subramanya, MahaVishnu, SriKrishna, Saraswathi, Mahalaxmi, Hanuman, Raman etc. 13) Sourabh Xavio 15) THIEYARS OF MALABAR Get your facts right. let's have ourown wikipedia please . Thiyya performs Payamkutty (a ritual pertains to Muthappan) in every Thiyya house in most of the week. One day in her dream she saw the Lord. 4) Maithrayani Upanishad If you don't change why do you expect Hinduism to unite? The bride and bridegroom must belong to different illams. Devotees belongs to all religions are allowed to enter here. On one side Hindus are trying to unite and on the other side there is this random caste Thiyya wanting to have subgroups among caste. Yashkumar1970 (talk) 15:41, 19 June 2011 (UTC). These Hindu religious books give knowledge for the mankind. Thanks We already have a lot of Nairs, Brahmins and Konkinis in my family through arranged abd love marriage. Ezhava men and women, like any other non-Brahmin castes in Kerala, were not allowed to cover their upper part of their bodies and … In the book basically fused Western ideas of the big bang and the theory of evolution to Hindu philosophy. Woah woah. Thali, gold chain, other gold and silver ornaments required are used to be provided by Thattan (Viswakarma) community. Each and every thiyyan in malabar(also someparts of karnataka) belongs any of these 8 illams. Many such tribes in combination formed local landlord group. Another one from the Kashyapa through his wife Kadru called as Nagavanshi.Naga Haplogroup N/O/P . It is proven now with the help of computers, by doing computer programming to get back calculating for that day on which such alignment occurred in solar system. [3] when thiruvappan traveled through the jungle he reached puralimala near Peravoor and met another muthappan, Thiruvappan called him cherukkan (meaning young boy in Malayalam) and accompanied him .this second muthappan is called as Vellattam.this theyyam carries round shaped throne made of hay. That is their rights. Just relax Shami. Ancients travelers from China for example did not record Ayodhya as a place in North India and Tamilnadu had a place named similar to Ayodhya. Please abstain from calling other community bad even if some of them might have given you bad time. He survived the great deluge with his wife shradha, 2 children and other prajapathis, hence we count human evolution further there onwards only. There is a Salem in Massachussets and does not mean that people living there are from Salem, Tamil Nadu. 13) Shukarahasya Upanishad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unniyarcha (talk • contribs) 12:44, 2 September 2019 (UTC), https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%BC. His son Ikshavaku was more fairer than his daughter ila but ila portrayed as lady strong as man…Ila married to Budha, who was Rishi atri's grandson and Chandra’s son to form a lineage called Lunar Dynasty,.where Ikshavaku continue his paternal lineage and called it Solar dynasty. If you look at the world map, you can spot places and races many such similarities, but similarity in names is not sufficient to prove such migration theories. Secondly thiyyas did have relationships with Nayars and Varmas, though not as frequently as Nayar/Nambuthri. Andalur Kavu, Andalur, Kannur, Kerala, India. All INDAINS should be united " are worshipped in Kavu. Ezhava community in my area is super active. SNDP is a group where they support each other. 7) Rama - Rama was about 13 feet tall dark-skinned person. Note most Christians and Muslims are from these castes. Also it's not even history you are talking about. please remove the site from protected Kadathanadan chekavar (talk) 17:59, 26 January 2017 (UTC), Firstly, I do not belong to any of these castes group. 13) Paramahamsa Upanishad As per vedic interpretation it comes under a Chandravanshi Clan Or Lunar lineage. They were probably descendants of Rajputs,who later became fierce fighters and warriors. For Hindus there are Muppathi mukkodi gods and Goddesses. “That when Jupitar planet occults at Delta Concreeon star, it felt that a new star has been born”. A small place called Thangacheri in Kollam was also under British rule, before independence of India. 21) https://history of northmalabar.weebly.com>northmalabar>theeyas of Malabar. Jai Hind. Most of Kerala's 34.8 million people (in 2011) are ethnicity Malayalis (Malayalam speakers). Like Mahatma Gandhi once said. Will any knowledgeable people here please explain me the exact meaning of all our Illam names for example Meaning of Nellika Thiya etc,I have been wondering about it,There is a lot of confusion about it here in Tulunadu and there is no information available about the same in internet,please feel free to mail me @ shamirule@gmail.com about the same. Best wishes. And there is this new generation who wants to split. In addition to it, Pooram (worship of Kamadevan by girls), Makam, Tulam 10th,, Onam (remembering the king Mahabali), Puthari (new rice harvest), Makara sankranthi (based on Sun) and Theyyam / Thira are also celebrated by Thiyya. Millions of tender coconuts are being offered collectively by all Thiyya families of Kannur region, during the festival there in first week of June, every year. Please read more. If you think of yourselves as backward, then other people consider you the same. A brief history on rise of Ezhava assertiveness. I will say an unfortunate example, in my area, one Ezhava girl got married to a muslim guy. They are idiots who repeat the same mistake over and over again. 5) Vamana - small humanoid became the most adept at finding food and became the dominant population on earth so the three feet tall Vamana had to come to solve their problems. From there ,the group migrated through the sind province,Gujarat, Maharashtra , and to southern India. Thiyya community lost the identity by the inclusion in Ezhava. That means worshipping the light and water first then dhoop (incandescence) represents Vayu (air) and then fire. 2) Yejur veda somhitha (contains 108 Shakhas or branches) You may edit whatever way you want as long as others agree. Geography. Famous Channan tharavad is Alummoottil. Why is it so hard to acknowledge that? I know one thing for sure people never change. The looser, who, lose in the sword fight will die, thus many Thiyya (Chekavers) lost their life like that. b) Yadhu build his power at Scythian region. Kingdom of ambalappuzha had many chekava soldiers. Which shows that eminent Thiyyas were in Cochi.The migrationof Thiyya came from Kargistan to Malabar you cannot say that community ends at North Malabar. they have their own wikipedia . Ancient Indian number system, used by Hindus: In ancient books on Jyothisham (Indian Astrology) and text pertains to Mathematical calculations, formulas, numerals are written in poetic way, using common words used in Malayalam and Sanskrit. The author of the book is T. Damu, who has published many novels, short stories and articles under the pen name T. D. Vadakkumbad. A request to all, Please dont fight among our selves. India got Independence in 15th August 1947 from British. Kerala Brides E4231416 . The-split-out India has the second most diverse DNA. It is written for the benefit of mankind. I believe Tracing thiyya’s origin won’t harmful for Ezhava cast rather it will help to encourage Ezava to stand against degradedness facing from higher cast as they have only 800 -1000 years history only in south kerala. I am Thiyya but its the same.' Religion : Hindu. 5) Nirvana Upanisad Hindus have as many as 1280 basic authentic dharmic (religious and scientific) books. They are also found amongst the Malayalee diaspora around the world. Alexander the great? 24) Mahavakya Upanishad Kayamkulam kingdom had panicker warriors.Chekavans or Chovans are another group. He didn't. 11) Kshurika Upanishad That may be useful to poor Ehzavas We had nothing, but three former chieif ministers.. rofl, true!! If at all true, it's because of the race mixing that happened in Malabar. While the majority of Keralans speak the Malayalam language, various ethnic groups may speak other languages as well. Everything in the Universe is made out of these Panch bhootha, light, water, air, ether and fire. 3) Kousheethaki Brahmanam, 1) Shathapatha Brahmanam Also its not Ezhavas who dragged you into our community. Coming to Thiyyas they also followed marumakkathayam like ezhavas or billavas. 10) Bruhavrucha Upanishad, 1) Ishavavasya Upanishad The performer of Theyyam ritual has to take vratham (fasting) for many days before he perform the rituals. We come from a middle class, nuclear family background with traditional val ...More. Thank you, Rahul, for enlightening us. They themselves strive to reach that level. By knowing the Rushi’s name while reciting Veda, it is found that these Rushis were lived about 2000 years ago than that of BC 4275. He shot an arrow upward from Kunnathoor. Both Ezhavas and Thiyyas had warriers, Ayurvedic practitioners and toddy tappers. Why don't you provide some genuine information? In northern Kerala, there are aristocratic Thiyya families. This kind of wishing is called ari nurikkal. Earlier, Thiyya poojaris (priest) has to wear washed cloths, which were washed by Vannathy (lady belongs to Vannan community), while performing pooja (rituals) (called Vannathymattu). Then the groom will put sindooram or kumkumam on bride’s forehead. 5) Shapathya vedam (Thachushastram or Vastu shastram), 1) Valmeki Ramayanam They are considered to be descendants of Villavar the founders of ancient Dravidian Chera Dynasty who once ruled parts of southern India. Each Thiyya un divided family used to have their own Kazhakappura (court) in their own tharavadu (joined family house) or Kavu (Temple) or Madappura. I request for the relaxation of protection in thiyya page Othayoth shankaran (talk) 09:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC), Protected edit request on 21 January 2014, Protected edit request on 7 November 2016, Protected edit request on 26 January 2017. Hindu myths go back to billions of years. It's nothing but prostituition.. A professional writer would not put ridiculous statements such as : This was the culture earlier. Kshatriya Grandmaster 10:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC), First of all the nampoothiris are mostly dark in complexion & short in stature which even puts their aryan background into question. What is effing wrong with you people? We too had warriers, Ayurveda doctors and toddy tappers. They have migrated down south approx 45 years back via 2 possible migration, one was through indus valley and other possibility thru arabian sea to Srilanka (izham island). Group of Ezhava villagers in Malabar, 1905. Saying that the Thiyyas are only in North Malabar is baseless. Famous Panickers are of Cheerappanchira, Varanapally etc. Also I feel like puking after reading your comment. Thiyya eat fish, chicken and mutton daily. it happened because, only the eldest of brahmin brothers could marry at that time and the rest had sex with thier house maids and this is the reason why polyandri was prevalent in nair caste.now let me tell uyou that recent Genetic studies show that the allelic distribution of Ezhavas in a bi-dimensional plot (correspondence analysis based on HLA-A, -B, and -C frequencies) has a rather strong East Eurasian element due to its proximity to the Mongol population in the same plot..so there my be a link between thiiya"s and ezhavas —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.242.192.179 (talk) 10:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC), Thiyya is a separate caste classified by the government of India. 3) Bramha Upanishad Name of some gods and goddess and types of gods Thiyya worship: Thiyya community worship, Muthappan, TheeChamundi, Patichamumdi, Gulikan, PooKuttichathan, Chattakuttichathan or Shasthappan, Bhiravan, Uchitta, Paradevatha, Valiya Bhagavathi, Cheriya Bhagavathi, Ponmakan, Ponmakal, Pothi, Poomala Bhagavathi, Thamburatti, KarimKali, Vazhunnor, Karanavanmar, Gurikkanmar, Mannappan, Raman, Vayanattu kulavan, Bali, Sugreevan, Hanuman, Bappuran, Daivathar, Vettakoru makan, Angakkaran, Kandanar Kelan, Pottan, Kandarkarnan, Vasoorimala, Kathivanoor veeran and so many other and its vellattam in the form of Theyyams. 4) Agniras lineage or Agnivanshi (This is a combination of Rishi Agniras+Bhrighu lineage, as it strengthened after parasuramas intervention) Veda followed was Atharva ..Breed Indo-Caucasian Haplogroup H/I/J/K with R1a1a1b1 and R2a2b2b2 subgroups EzhavaThe Ezhavas or Izhavas are the largest ethnic groups in Kerala, a south Indian state. They follow marumakkathayam. If you are not aware, the Nair lady had to have sexual relationship with local Nambuthiri before she is married to a Nair. Now a day’s these are all found only for the name sake. I tried all sources to obtain a Community Certificate.... buy I couldn't.... thanks for confusing me . Why? The Ezhavas are the largest group among Hindu communities in Kerala.They are considered to be descendants of Villavar the founders of ancient Tamil Chera Dynasty who once ruled parts of southern India. True..This article is nothing but rantings of a self obsessed racist crook. Do you get it? I am not saying all Thiyyas are like that as I had some nice colleagues and they were saying, 'oh you are Ezhava as well? Vaniya,Vaniya Nair 2019 there Status is SC,ST by Kerala Government, Vaniya Job Was Workers of Coconut Oil,Thsts T it,, I am a Thiyya and believe the Thiyya and Ezhava were the original people of kerala their population numbers are a proof of this. The Thiyya King, Sri Kunhi Kelappan Mannanar, ruled north Kerala up to 1902. But I do know a bit about how it is in my home state, Kerala. Even though its late I fully agree on what you had mentioned. Examples of "thiyya" Some in the Thiyya community have objected to being treated as Ezhava by the government of Kerala. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1954.56.3.02a00100/pdf, Castes-and-Tribes-of-Southern-India-Vol-7 by Thurston, Edgar : Page: 37 - 122. Your vote bank is going to be zero. Hence, north Malabar region had been called as Gods own country by British. An Izhuvan, partaking of rice at a Tiyan's house, must eat it in a verandah ; he cannot do so in the house, as that would be defilement to the Tiyan. Hindus in my area are much more united that the North. Ezhavars or illavars its not as easy as classifying as dravidian/aryan, but there is also australoid, some mongoloid and other influences over the ages (contact with romans, israelites, etc.) Today date in Kali Varsham (year) is 5121, Kalidinam 1870554. He got very angry and tried to shoot the man using his bow and arrows but fell unconscious before he could let loose even one arrow. Kerala, again supposed to be the most educated and intelligent state, have taken these adjectives for granted - should go beyond all this and 'try' to erase what Swami Vivekananda said 'Keralam oru branthalayam' when he visited Kerala because of its caste discrimination. If you feel so inferior to everyone that you are trying to prove some whatever this is called, then it is your inferiority complex nothing else! Normal marriage divorce procedure through court is also used for divorce, normally. The main reason the Thiyyas were given a OBC status by the Kerala Gov was that some of their community leaders had much soft approach towards lower caste people. You should understand that Ezhava is a collection of many sub castes which had so many rich and poor people. This write up references taken from various Tribal Migration Studies conducted across globe, which in cumulative clarifies that no one is superior Or inferior by birth or by genes or by racial status as much deeper we travel in to Haplogroups, it makes us realise that the new born tribes are sightly advanced in thoughts than the Older genus and it's something like a new version of gadget released.Hence with the time that brand new or breed new also become older version down the line.. Having said that older breed carry better strength and sustainability like we say “Better older Wines”. Oh my dear god. Oil required for the lamps and other use used to be provided by Vaniayar (Nair) community. Thekkan ezzhavas are billionaires athinte pangu pattan avarana ariyam No pleasing system of groom’s family by bride’s family by giving money or motor cycle or car or house etc or in any other form. Before long, Chandan regained consciousness. Dear Mr. Premdev, Sometimes Smarthavicharam lead to the nampoothiri women getting married to Thiyya men. Tribal Migration Study Cultureless people. Ganapathi, Hanuman etc will listen to you very soon without much devotion. Veda means knowledge in Sanskrit. 2) Thythereeya Aranyakam, I. Rig veda Upanishath And so we were given this lower caste thing, as the upper castes considered us to be a threat to their government jobs, conversion of other people to Buddhism or whatever. 16) Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad, 1) Prasna Upanishad 32) Saraswathi rahasya Upanishad, 1) Kena Upanishad Vedas are hymes and mantras written in poetical style and prose, written in Sanskrit language and completed it by many Rushis of Bharath or India, before 8000 BC. It happened 38 years before the Mahabharata war. This book does not provide a single reference for this theory or any research which confirms this theory. Also in comments above, denigrating either caste is no way to solve the problem, whether its Brahmin bashing, or describing Sambandham as prostitution etc- and feeds into the same rubbish of community denigration. whatever said we are a totally different exclusive community in Malabar and don't need any clarification to prove our thiyya genes ,who we are ,our approach ,mannerism,culture ,leadership,skill ,genuineness very well proves, it . Malabar cost is situated in India. 3) Arsheya Brahmanam For example, the number 1 pertains to object name like Moon, Earth, sun etc, the only one, number 2 symbolizes to hands , eyes and legs etc having two in numbers, like that it continues. They are not seen in South Travancore. After telling namasthe with her both hands folding, to the people, present there, bride will sit in the mandapam. 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Whatever Thiyya is, it is they who requested Sree Narayana Guru to include your caste with Ezhavas(a combination of so many other castes) because of the social oppression that your ancestors faced. The population of Kerala, India is a heterogenous group that comprises many ethnic groups that originated in other parts of India as well as the world, with distinctive cultural and religious traditions. The only reason for this confusion is because community names are so similar, another fact which favored the same was that both of these communities followed the great social reformer Sri Narayana Guru and got a common community name atlast. Translated as accurately as possible, it runs thus. There were people who were warriors, Ayurvedic doctors, government workers etc.. Our ancestors were generous enough to think of other people who suffered. During Theyyam rituals, the Theyyam performer will tell the history pertains to that Theyyam in its Thottam (poetic way) and he performs the history telling by his action also. Similarly the Christian machineries also did lot of harm to Hindus. Oldest record of channan is the saivite nayyannar and Chola military general, Enathinathar who lived between 5th and 8th century AD. That's all I have to say to you. Thiyas kuladevi is Shri Bhagavathi... hence the followers, worshippers of Bhagavathi came to be named as Thi.. ie. If you have self confidence you dont need reservation. 36) Jyothisham by Dr.N Gopalakrishnan, Scientist, on YouTube. They have migrated down south approx 25K to 30K (thousand) years back through North East valley. As per the martial history of Southern Kerala. True that. There are many on line Sanskrit classes in YouTube. There were protracted discussions in early 2013 regarding the validity of hosting a separate page for Thiyya, the outcome of which was that current sources do not justify it. Duh! 16) Brahmavidya Upanishad If you consider others as equal, you should be in a safe place. After the marriage, the marriage registration will be done in the Village panchayat office or Municipal office, pertains to brides residence area. In Hinduism, there is no restriction for anything. are you running away from Dravidian origin? The way it was written was horrible! All these doubts did not prevent The Hindu from writing this, "The predominant Thiyya community of Malabar migrated to Kerala in 7000 BC from Kyrgyzstan in the erstwhile Soviet Union, says a fresh study revealing their disputed origins".After reading the book, I found there was no study mentioned. why don't Thiyya ? The arrow, when it was found, was glowing in the Theertha (sacred water) near the temple. Now, after Indian Independence, person belongs to Thiyya community is also working and settled in Thiruvananthapuram, Kollom, Pathanamthitta, Alappuzha, Kottayam, Idukki and Ernakulum districts of Kerala state also, but are very rare. The group shares a common history from the pre-social reform era, when caste was an integral part of the political, economic, legal, and social order across Kerala.OriginEtymologically, the word… If Hindus don't unite now, forget about your future generations. This is just one example. We never sent you an invitation to join SNDP.Only few enjoyed among Thiyyas which is why they seeked help. Malabar cost starts in north from Kasargod, Kannur, Mahe, Kozhikode, Malappuram and Trichur districts in south. https://services.india.gov.in>detail search caste and community in the central list of OBC. Since this inclution in Ezhava lost its freedom, cultural identityand all social and educational considerations. To clarify further details, i would take the support of myths and history so that all of you understand how these lineages, tribes, clans and caste formed from a single human breed. 31) Naradapariprajaka Upanishad Once his or her Kundalini activates, the man or woman become divine. Never mind, you can improve it. 3) Aaruni Upanishad Mooladhara chakra is near anus, Swadishtana chakra is near urinary bladder, Manipura chakra is at umbilical code junction, Anahat chakra is near heart, Vishudhi chakra is on neck, Ajna chakra in on forehead in between eyebrows and Sahsrara chakra is on top centre of the head. 4) Atharvashira Upanisad Muthappan chose Kunnathoor as His residence at the request of Chandan. 25% of the Kerala population is from this Eazhavar /Thiyyar community.They are known as Chovan ( cholan), Chekavar (warriors) or chekons in Kerala. Our Hubris will not take us to places,but unity and belongingness irrespective of our diversity will last us long till the eternity. 44) How old are the Vedas? Third, South had a lot of elites too. are also worshipped by Thiyyer in the form of Theyyem. In kochin the vaniyans are kongini vaniyans and these are sacred thread wearing vaishyas . Sri Churyayi Kanaran, Deputy Collector of South Malabar, British India, during 1859- 1869. Can you proove that? Haplogroup H originates from a western iranian province of ilam or elam, which means Home land. 4) Atharva veda somhitha (contains 50 shakas or branches), 1) Ithereya Brahmanam This is called swayamvaram. If you want to talk about skin colour. You can see the same with malabar Nairs too. As per our myth Manu was accompanied with his wife, Seven Sages and their families. That is the Scientific India. 10) AP Sajesh Niju Malappuram‎ to Janam TV - Fans Club After the flood of great deluge manu's yacht or ark believed to be anchored on the top peak of a Moutain, which hindus belives as peak of Malaya Mountain Vis Aanamudi of Western Ghat. Ezhavas have enough glorious past to be proud of and need not allign with Thiyyas for that. 2) Dhanurvedam Now a day, due to lack of space in their house compound, funerals are done at public smashanam or cemetery. Earlier, in each Thiyya house used to have a separate room called Chayipp. The first one says that that Lord Siva saw seven women taking a bath in a river and decided to get them. (It was the foolishness of Thiyyer, those days). I am a Thiyya and believe the Thiyya and Ezhava were the original people of kerala their population numbers are a proof of this. They are related to Tamil castes of illathupillaimar and sirakudi vellalar. With people with leadership skills as Mr. Premdev, I could totally see where your vehicle is going. Population control in Kerala, India. if you r a forward cast, leave ur O.B.C.reservation quota. Why is there a conflict between Thiyya and Ezhava? . Kummikali is practiced by Thiyya women. 20) https://archive.org/details/caste&tribesofs007thuriala , Castes and tribes of Southern India: Thurston, Edgar 1855-1935. It will be performed by Thiyya male member or Thiyya boys. In fact, the illams are exogamous. 15) Soorya Upanishad Yes, it’s true that Thiyyas of Malabar were from Kyrgyz and they were called “Thiyyas” because they were people who were settled in the foothills of “Tian Mountains” which is in the southern side of Kyrgyzstan. A few of bride’s relatives will accompany the bride, for escorting the bride to the groom’s house. 6) Samavidhana Brahmanam He explains, and at length she yields. 20) Devi Upanishad Hindus Mahasankalpa has mentioned the same point as the modern science as far as this period is concerned. But unfortunately the context in which this information is presented and the lack of any reference makes me a skeptic. Thiyya marriage is conducted in a kalyana (marriage) mandapam (stage) in bride’s residence or in a hired auditorium, during the day time. Normally, each big combined Thiyya family used to have their own smashanam (cemetery). I don't remember reading the entire article of yours. Typed in mob so some mistake may happen in wordings please be excused The present Manwantara is 7th one, known as Vaivaswtha Manwantara. Also, South we don't even know about other sub castes in Ezhavas. She was very good in sword fight (kalaripayattu) , also a Thiyya. Haha വാണിയനും (lowercaste coconut oil makers) മണിയാണിയും ഒക്കെ lowercaste ആണ് .അവരുടെ തൊഴിലും തിയ്യരുടെ തൊഴിലും തമ്മിൽ വല്യ വ്യത്യാസമൊന്നുമില്ല .nambyiar ,നായനാർ ,വർമ്മ പോലുള്ളജാതികൾ ആണ് Swords, other weapons and other tools made of Iron and steel for Thiyya are used to be provided by Kollan (Viswakarma) community. Nair ennum paranj ang pongi kerathe,karyam illa. Thanks to Manikandan for the question; Technically Thiyya and Ezhava are not same, rather two different castes. From these places, Thiyya community has migrated to, rest of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, Telungana, Maharashtra, Gujarat, Delhi and other states of India and all Arabian Gulf countries , like UAE, Oman, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc and rest of the world. Coorgies call Muthappan as Uthappa in their Coorgee language. Are you mad? this is our demand for over 10 years. Once these, Intelligent Design, equivalent theories have been presented, the author kicks it up a notch and suggests that some people migrated from Kyrgyzstan in 7000 B.C to India. @ Rekha Hi Rekha, I understand your attachment to cultural things but I don't really understand one's attachment to a caste. How do you differentiate an Ezhava from a Paniyan> Basically, it is the story of the Avatars: Now, they don't really talk much about their castes, rather they are open to other castes. Hinduism followed Kali varsham, Kali dinam (Kali year and Kali days). Then both bride and groom put ring to each other. When we say 7th mutation it means already 6 generation of breeds were already crossed. You need to improve your writing skills. 23) Ganapathi Upanishad As a youth in his late Twenties, what I feel is Our goal for the future should be organisation of Thiya community irrespective of our diverse names, Languages, financial condition and reach out to the last member of our community for strengthening us for the future,but here all I can read is how superior and un-Indian and fair we are from others etc etc and delusions .I belong to Tulu Thiya community who are also called as Malyalee-Billawa and Belchada.We worship Bhagawati amma and our kula guru is Shree Guru Narayana Swami.In Tulunadu, we share brotherly relationship with Guru Narayana Swami worshiping Billawa community and other communities, we don't consider anyone superior or inferior.There are other Thiyas who speaks a very different language which is mixture of Tulu,Kannada and Malyalam which is called Malyalee by them,even they are busy infighting.I don't get this Thiyas pre and post-independence have been oprressed,killed and converted gruesomely in Khilafat movement then,and still are targeted in places like Manjeshwar, Kasargod,Maddur especially the southern part of Tulunadu that falls in Nothern Kerala. The Thiyya king was not having a valid successor (Marumakan, that is his sister’s son), after his death. 30) Yogakundalini Upanishad Your caste was put under the OBC sect not because your ancestors were made of duplicate materials but because there were both rich and poor people, the richs among us were brave enough to think about the oppression that the poor faced. That's what we do. Gods and goddess and the way of worship of Thiyya: Thiyya worship their Gods and Goddess in the form of Theyyam, in addition to Shiva, Parvathi, Ganesha, Subramanya, MahaVishnu, SriKrishna, Saraswathi, Mahalaxmi, Hanuman, Raman etc. 13) Sourabh Xavio 15) THIEYARS OF MALABAR Get your facts right. let's have ourown wikipedia please . Thiyya performs Payamkutty (a ritual pertains to Muthappan) in every Thiyya house in most of the week. One day in her dream she saw the Lord. 4) Maithrayani Upanishad If you don't change why do you expect Hinduism to unite? The bride and bridegroom must belong to different illams. Devotees belongs to all religions are allowed to enter here. On one side Hindus are trying to unite and on the other side there is this random caste Thiyya wanting to have subgroups among caste. Yashkumar1970 (talk) 15:41, 19 June 2011 (UTC). These Hindu religious books give knowledge for the mankind. Thanks We already have a lot of Nairs, Brahmins and Konkinis in my family through arranged abd love marriage. Ezhava men and women, like any other non-Brahmin castes in Kerala, were not allowed to cover their upper part of their bodies and … In the book basically fused Western ideas of the big bang and the theory of evolution to Hindu philosophy. Woah woah. Thali, gold chain, other gold and silver ornaments required are used to be provided by Thattan (Viswakarma) community. Each and every thiyyan in malabar(also someparts of karnataka) belongs any of these 8 illams. Many such tribes in combination formed local landlord group. Another one from the Kashyapa through his wife Kadru called as Nagavanshi.Naga Haplogroup N/O/P . It is proven now with the help of computers, by doing computer programming to get back calculating for that day on which such alignment occurred in solar system. [3] when thiruvappan traveled through the jungle he reached puralimala near Peravoor and met another muthappan, Thiruvappan called him cherukkan (meaning young boy in Malayalam) and accompanied him .this second muthappan is called as Vellattam.this theyyam carries round shaped throne made of hay. That is their rights. Just relax Shami. Ancients travelers from China for example did not record Ayodhya as a place in North India and Tamilnadu had a place named similar to Ayodhya. Please abstain from calling other community bad even if some of them might have given you bad time. He survived the great deluge with his wife shradha, 2 children and other prajapathis, hence we count human evolution further there onwards only. There is a Salem in Massachussets and does not mean that people living there are from Salem, Tamil Nadu. 13) Shukarahasya Upanishad — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unniyarcha (talk • contribs) 12:44, 2 September 2019 (UTC), https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%A4%E0%B5%80%E0%B4%AF%E0%B5%BC. His son Ikshavaku was more fairer than his daughter ila but ila portrayed as lady strong as man…Ila married to Budha, who was Rishi atri's grandson and Chandra’s son to form a lineage called Lunar Dynasty,.where Ikshavaku continue his paternal lineage and called it Solar dynasty. If you look at the world map, you can spot places and races many such similarities, but similarity in names is not sufficient to prove such migration theories. Secondly thiyyas did have relationships with Nayars and Varmas, though not as frequently as Nayar/Nambuthri. Andalur Kavu, Andalur, Kannur, Kerala, India. All INDAINS should be united " are worshipped in Kavu. Ezhava community in my area is super active. SNDP is a group where they support each other. 7) Rama - Rama was about 13 feet tall dark-skinned person. Note most Christians and Muslims are from these castes. Also it's not even history you are talking about. please remove the site from protected Kadathanadan chekavar (talk) 17:59, 26 January 2017 (UTC), Firstly, I do not belong to any of these castes group. 13) Paramahamsa Upanishad As per vedic interpretation it comes under a Chandravanshi Clan Or Lunar lineage. They were probably descendants of Rajputs,who later became fierce fighters and warriors. For Hindus there are Muppathi mukkodi gods and Goddesses. “That when Jupitar planet occults at Delta Concreeon star, it felt that a new star has been born”. A small place called Thangacheri in Kollam was also under British rule, before independence of India. 21) https://history of northmalabar.weebly.com>northmalabar>theeyas of Malabar. Jai Hind. Most of Kerala's 34.8 million people (in 2011) are ethnicity Malayalis (Malayalam speakers). Like Mahatma Gandhi once said. Will any knowledgeable people here please explain me the exact meaning of all our Illam names for example Meaning of Nellika Thiya etc,I have been wondering about it,There is a lot of confusion about it here in Tulunadu and there is no information available about the same in internet,please feel free to mail me @ shamirule@gmail.com about the same. Best wishes. And there is this new generation who wants to split. In addition to it, Pooram (worship of Kamadevan by girls), Makam, Tulam 10th,, Onam (remembering the king Mahabali), Puthari (new rice harvest), Makara sankranthi (based on Sun) and Theyyam / Thira are also celebrated by Thiyya. Millions of tender coconuts are being offered collectively by all Thiyya families of Kannur region, during the festival there in first week of June, every year. Please read more. If you think of yourselves as backward, then other people consider you the same. A brief history on rise of Ezhava assertiveness. I will say an unfortunate example, in my area, one Ezhava girl got married to a muslim guy. They are idiots who repeat the same mistake over and over again. 5) Vamana - small humanoid became the most adept at finding food and became the dominant population on earth so the three feet tall Vamana had to come to solve their problems. From there ,the group migrated through the sind province,Gujarat, Maharashtra , and to southern India. Thiyya community lost the identity by the inclusion in Ezhava. That means worshipping the light and water first then dhoop (incandescence) represents Vayu (air) and then fire. 2) Yejur veda somhitha (contains 108 Shakhas or branches) You may edit whatever way you want as long as others agree. Geography. Famous Channan tharavad is Alummoottil. Why is it so hard to acknowledge that? I know one thing for sure people never change. The looser, who, lose in the sword fight will die, thus many Thiyya (Chekavers) lost their life like that. b) Yadhu build his power at Scythian region. Kingdom of ambalappuzha had many chekava soldiers. Which shows that eminent Thiyyas were in Cochi.The migrationof Thiyya came from Kargistan to Malabar you cannot say that community ends at North Malabar. they have their own wikipedia . Ancient Indian number system, used by Hindus: In ancient books on Jyothisham (Indian Astrology) and text pertains to Mathematical calculations, formulas, numerals are written in poetic way, using common words used in Malayalam and Sanskrit. The author of the book is T. Damu, who has published many novels, short stories and articles under the pen name T. D. Vadakkumbad. A request to all, Please dont fight among our selves. India got Independence in 15th August 1947 from British. Kerala Brides E4231416 . The-split-out India has the second most diverse DNA. It is written for the benefit of mankind. I believe Tracing thiyya’s origin won’t harmful for Ezhava cast rather it will help to encourage Ezava to stand against degradedness facing from higher cast as they have only 800 -1000 years history only in south kerala. I am Thiyya but its the same.' Religion : Hindu. 5) Nirvana Upanisad Hindus have as many as 1280 basic authentic dharmic (religious and scientific) books. They are also found amongst the Malayalee diaspora around the world. Alexander the great? 24) Mahavakya Upanishad Kayamkulam kingdom had panicker warriors.Chekavans or Chovans are another group. He didn't. 11) Kshurika Upanishad That may be useful to poor Ehzavas We had nothing, but three former chieif ministers.. rofl, true!! If at all true, it's because of the race mixing that happened in Malabar. While the majority of Keralans speak the Malayalam language, various ethnic groups may speak other languages as well. Everything in the Universe is made out of these Panch bhootha, light, water, air, ether and fire. 3) Kousheethaki Brahmanam, 1) Shathapatha Brahmanam Also its not Ezhavas who dragged you into our community. Coming to Thiyyas they also followed marumakkathayam like ezhavas or billavas. 10) Bruhavrucha Upanishad, 1) Ishavavasya Upanishad The performer of Theyyam ritual has to take vratham (fasting) for many days before he perform the rituals. We come from a middle class, nuclear family background with traditional val ...More. Thank you, Rahul, for enlightening us. They themselves strive to reach that level. By knowing the Rushi’s name while reciting Veda, it is found that these Rushis were lived about 2000 years ago than that of BC 4275. He shot an arrow upward from Kunnathoor. Both Ezhavas and Thiyyas had warriers, Ayurvedic practitioners and toddy tappers. Why don't you provide some genuine information? In northern Kerala, there are aristocratic Thiyya families. This kind of wishing is called ari nurikkal. Earlier, Thiyya poojaris (priest) has to wear washed cloths, which were washed by Vannathy (lady belongs to Vannan community), while performing pooja (rituals) (called Vannathymattu). Then the groom will put sindooram or kumkumam on bride’s forehead. 5) Shapathya vedam (Thachushastram or Vastu shastram), 1) Valmeki Ramayanam They are considered to be descendants of Villavar the founders of ancient Dravidian Chera Dynasty who once ruled parts of southern India. Each Thiyya un divided family used to have their own Kazhakappura (court) in their own tharavadu (joined family house) or Kavu (Temple) or Madappura. I request for the relaxation of protection in thiyya page Othayoth shankaran (talk) 09:13, 11 April 2020 (UTC), Protected edit request on 21 January 2014, Protected edit request on 7 November 2016, Protected edit request on 26 January 2017. Hindu myths go back to billions of years. It's nothing but prostituition.. A professional writer would not put ridiculous statements such as : This was the culture earlier. Kshatriya Grandmaster 10:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC), First of all the nampoothiris are mostly dark in complexion & short in stature which even puts their aryan background into question. What is effing wrong with you people? We too had warriers, Ayurveda doctors and toddy tappers. They have migrated down south approx 45 years back via 2 possible migration, one was through indus valley and other possibility thru arabian sea to Srilanka (izham island). Group of Ezhava villagers in Malabar, 1905. Saying that the Thiyyas are only in North Malabar is baseless. Famous Panickers are of Cheerappanchira, Varanapally etc. Also I feel like puking after reading your comment. Thiyya eat fish, chicken and mutton daily. it happened because, only the eldest of brahmin brothers could marry at that time and the rest had sex with thier house maids and this is the reason why polyandri was prevalent in nair caste.now let me tell uyou that recent Genetic studies show that the allelic distribution of Ezhavas in a bi-dimensional plot (correspondence analysis based on HLA-A, -B, and -C frequencies) has a rather strong East Eurasian element due to its proximity to the Mongol population in the same plot..so there my be a link between thiiya"s and ezhavas —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.242.192.179 (talk) 10:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC), Thiyya is a separate caste classified by the government of India. 3) Bramha Upanishad Name of some gods and goddess and types of gods Thiyya worship: Thiyya community worship, Muthappan, TheeChamundi, Patichamumdi, Gulikan, PooKuttichathan, Chattakuttichathan or Shasthappan, Bhiravan, Uchitta, Paradevatha, Valiya Bhagavathi, Cheriya Bhagavathi, Ponmakan, Ponmakal, Pothi, Poomala Bhagavathi, Thamburatti, KarimKali, Vazhunnor, Karanavanmar, Gurikkanmar, Mannappan, Raman, Vayanattu kulavan, Bali, Sugreevan, Hanuman, Bappuran, Daivathar, Vettakoru makan, Angakkaran, Kandanar Kelan, Pottan, Kandarkarnan, Vasoorimala, Kathivanoor veeran and so many other and its vellattam in the form of Theyyams. 4) Agniras lineage or Agnivanshi (This is a combination of Rishi Agniras+Bhrighu lineage, as it strengthened after parasuramas intervention) Veda followed was Atharva ..Breed Indo-Caucasian Haplogroup H/I/J/K with R1a1a1b1 and R2a2b2b2 subgroups EzhavaThe Ezhavas or Izhavas are the largest ethnic groups in Kerala, a south Indian state. They follow marumakkathayam. If you are not aware, the Nair lady had to have sexual relationship with local Nambuthiri before she is married to a Nair. Now a day’s these are all found only for the name sake. I tried all sources to obtain a Community Certificate.... buy I couldn't.... thanks for confusing me . Why? The Ezhavas are the largest group among Hindu communities in Kerala.They are considered to be descendants of Villavar the founders of ancient Tamil Chera Dynasty who once ruled parts of southern India. True..This article is nothing but rantings of a self obsessed racist crook. Do you get it? I am not saying all Thiyyas are like that as I had some nice colleagues and they were saying, 'oh you are Ezhava as well? Vaniya,Vaniya Nair 2019 there Status is SC,ST by Kerala Government, Vaniya Job Was Workers of Coconut Oil,Thsts T it,, I am a Thiyya and believe the Thiyya and Ezhava were the original people of kerala their population numbers are a proof of this. The Thiyya King, Sri Kunhi Kelappan Mannanar, ruled north Kerala up to 1902. But I do know a bit about how it is in my home state, Kerala. Even though its late I fully agree on what you had mentioned. Examples of "thiyya" Some in the Thiyya community have objected to being treated as Ezhava by the government of Kerala. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1525/aa.1954.56.3.02a00100/pdf, Castes-and-Tribes-of-Southern-India-Vol-7 by Thurston, Edgar : Page: 37 - 122. Your vote bank is going to be zero. Hence, north Malabar region had been called as Gods own country by British. An Izhuvan, partaking of rice at a Tiyan's house, must eat it in a verandah ; he cannot do so in the house, as that would be defilement to the Tiyan. Hindus in my area are much more united that the North. Ezhavars or illavars its not as easy as classifying as dravidian/aryan, but there is also australoid, some mongoloid and other influences over the ages (contact with romans, israelites, etc.) Today date in Kali Varsham (year) is 5121, Kalidinam 1870554. He got very angry and tried to shoot the man using his bow and arrows but fell unconscious before he could let loose even one arrow. Kerala, again supposed to be the most educated and intelligent state, have taken these adjectives for granted - should go beyond all this and 'try' to erase what Swami Vivekananda said 'Keralam oru branthalayam' when he visited Kerala because of its caste discrimination. If you feel so inferior to everyone that you are trying to prove some whatever this is called, then it is your inferiority complex nothing else! Normal marriage divorce procedure through court is also used for divorce, normally. The main reason the Thiyyas were given a OBC status by the Kerala Gov was that some of their community leaders had much soft approach towards lower caste people. You should understand that Ezhava is a collection of many sub castes which had so many rich and poor people. This write up references taken from various Tribal Migration Studies conducted across globe, which in cumulative clarifies that no one is superior Or inferior by birth or by genes or by racial status as much deeper we travel in to Haplogroups, it makes us realise that the new born tribes are sightly advanced in thoughts than the Older genus and it's something like a new version of gadget released.Hence with the time that brand new or breed new also become older version down the line.. Having said that older breed carry better strength and sustainability like we say “Better older Wines”. Oh my dear god. Oil required for the lamps and other use used to be provided by Vaniayar (Nair) community. Thekkan ezzhavas are billionaires athinte pangu pattan avarana ariyam No pleasing system of groom’s family by bride’s family by giving money or motor cycle or car or house etc or in any other form. Before long, Chandan regained consciousness. Dear Mr. Premdev, Sometimes Smarthavicharam lead to the nampoothiri women getting married to Thiyya men. Tribal Migration Study Cultureless people. Ganapathi, Hanuman etc will listen to you very soon without much devotion. Veda means knowledge in Sanskrit. 2) Thythereeya Aranyakam, I. Rig veda Upanishath And so we were given this lower caste thing, as the upper castes considered us to be a threat to their government jobs, conversion of other people to Buddhism or whatever. 16) Rudraksha Jabala Upanishad, 1) Prasna Upanishad 32) Saraswathi rahasya Upanishad, 1) Kena Upanishad Vedas are hymes and mantras written in poetical style and prose, written in Sanskrit language and completed it by many Rushis of Bharath or India, before 8000 BC. It happened 38 years before the Mahabharata war. This book does not provide a single reference for this theory or any research which confirms this theory. Also in comments above, denigrating either caste is no way to solve the problem, whether its Brahmin bashing, or describing Sambandham as prostitution etc- and feeds into the same rubbish of community denigration. whatever said we are a totally different exclusive community in Malabar and don't need any clarification to prove our thiyya genes ,who we are ,our approach ,mannerism,culture ,leadership,skill ,genuineness very well proves, it . Malabar cost is situated in India. 3) Arsheya Brahmanam For example, the number 1 pertains to object name like Moon, Earth, sun etc, the only one, number 2 symbolizes to hands , eyes and legs etc having two in numbers, like that it continues. They are not seen in South Travancore. After telling namasthe with her both hands folding, to the people, present there, bride will sit in the mandapam. 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